2008/06/11

hate-speak ...


 .. no excuses - not 'no more,' just none

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It 'dawned' on me some-when - OK, I might'a been a bit slow - that the AusBC has been transmitting propaganda at us. I just examined my 'input' archive, a somewhat casual (i.e. not totally rigorous) record of my thoughts as submitted to various 'blogs,' including the old SMH webdiary and CT/HYS. Result: 369 occurrences of 'propagand' and the very 1st on 13May'03. Here's a (longish) 'snip:'


«IF somebody tells you that they are going to war BECAUSE another party has WMDs AND that party does not have any AND the invading 'power' knew it all along THEN that somebody (Bush, Blair and Howard, Powell, Straw, Downer, the whole sordid bunch) did lie. I don't care for dissembling, disingenuity, disinformation or propaganda (in all its forms and so the list goes on;) but with Howard we've got no choice - and as far as knowingly dishonest, and/or intended to deceive or all those together and more, never a truer word spoken in jest - and that's not fooling.»


[me/left, right, outright,13May'03]


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That was 'back then,' this is now. But before we leave the past, there're still a few things to be recalled. Like, for example, 7.30's Kerry O'Brien going off to the US (immediately prior to that illegal invasion - briefing tour?) - and the subsequent 'make-over' the 7.30 program format received. Then, there was the endless stream of 'talking heads' (detested Ameri-speak - spit!) The coming war was 'talked-up,' basically 7.30 followed the US (venal!) MSM's lead.

So now, Q: What have we got?

A(1): We now know, what we suspected (99+%) all along, and that is, they lied. Not 'just' the politicians ("All politicians lie!") - but the MSM, including via the AusBC & SBS. Boo! Hiss!

A(2): At least 935 lies were deployed by GWBush&Co (if 'needed,' find the articles yourself.)

A(3): The endless stream of 'talking heads' were, on the whole, 'on the take;' the US versions have now been shown to have been 'fully briefed' by the Pentagon. Circularity, anyone? Even the truly liberal media 'caved in.'

A(4): The US Senate (Phase II report) has now 'chimed in,' confirming the distortions, specifically, that the 'intel' was not wrong; it too, was infested with deliberate lies, even 'sexed-up' in UK parlance. (If 'needed,' find the articles yourself. Also refer 'Downing St. Memos.')

I'm not doing links; anyone interested *knows* most if not all of this stuff, but it's interesting (even if 'only' for me), to take a bit of a perspective-view now and again. I have, over my 'blogging career' had various arguments, it turns out (IMHO!) that the simplest arguments work best.

I like to say WYSIWYG: 'What you see is what you get.' We could also call it 'the lens of reality.'

With the exception of 'the biggie,' aka the greedastrophe® - time for dealing with which is trickling away, partly - possibly mainly - due to our next biggest problems, which are these 'myths:'

1. The US: "Truth, Justice and the American Way!" (What utter BS.)

2. Israel: "Brave (little) David, confronting (murdering hordes of) Arab-Goliaths!" (Even worse BS.)

I contend - for me alone, who cares about 'the/any other;' i.e. "Stuff you Jack, I'm OK!" - I contend that these myths are exactly that and more: they are lies. Pure and utter lies - with no redemption, and no redemption possible. And I got those lies - partly, possibly wholly - from the AusBC (since that's almost all the MSM that I ever 'consume,' with only the tiniest of exceptions (F1).)

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Sooo, what??! - Well, try this:




by Alan Curran on June 10, 2008 - 9:09pm


Angela, Hasbara (??????, also spelt Hasbarah) is a noun that literally means "explanation". Where does the word "goyim" come in? I have not heard that word for years.

I am at the moment looking through 438,000 Google hits on Palestinian propaganda. I will get back to you as soon as I can as there is a lot of garbage to wade through. I am reading about the so called peace activist Rachel Corrie. This is a story the Palestinians have twisted around.

The Arabs have got to realise that Israel is here to stay, and if they are not prepared to accept this they are going to finish up with a lot of martyrs.



It should be noted, that 'Alan Curran' is a nom de plume. There is no way to recognise such, merely fortuitously disclosed (perhaps only to those who actually witnessed the event), after the 'Curran' cyber-identity painted itself into a corner. Exactly who is this Curran? Just A. Nobody? (Haw! The "A" is for another - fraud.)

Then, this:



Anther reply to Roslyn Ross that the balanced WD team may well not publish:

Bigotry And The End Of Webdiary

Roslyn Ross.

Your repeated comparisons between Israel and Nazi Germany are beneath contempt, qualify your rantings as antisemitic by any accepted criteria or definition, underline a profound ignorance that permeates everything you write, disqualify you from any serious part in this or any other discussion and highlight the essential problem of Webdiary attempting to be taking seriously as a "moderated" site while at the same time hosting the likes of you.

The only "bitter irony" here is that WD has published without any apparent qualm, once again, your truly disgusting slur, and yet this reply may well be deemed to be unprintable by the moderator on duty. Again.

Your presence here disqualifies WD from any serious consideration anywhere. It has been responsible for the loss of a number of valuable commenters. It is appalling that your comments should be allowed publication without comment while the comments of those who take issue with your serial rubbish are cut or selectively criticised. That the rubbish you write has actually been described as "moderate" reflects badly on this site.

WD has become just another hate site. I've tried to stick it out longer than others who have pointed this out, in the hope a crisis might make this place see sense.

You are a racist and a bigot Roslyn Ross. You shame Webdiary. And you reveal why Webdiary does not deserve to survive in its current form.


Posted by: Geoff Pahoff | Thursday, August 03, 2006 at 23:03


My comment: Pahoff has been (most probably rightly) called an arch-Zionist.

Another comment: Here, Pahoff was/is right: "WD has become just another hate site." Just got the timing wrong.

Yet another comment: Pahoff has the nerve to call someone a bigot? Haw again, in spades.

Shortly following the Alan Curran spit, comes another:




by Geoff Pahoff on June 10, 2008 - 11:25pm


...
Then I have a quick look at what the Israel bashers are saying. And those who are pretending to be neutral. The anti-west bigots as driven as the ugliest lynch mob. Like above.
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My comment: Anyone who wishes to side-step the venal MSM lying propaganda can see that Israel occupies land stolen from the hapless - legal owners, aka the violently, often murderously, dispossessed Palestinians.

What Israel is up to - quite visibly, see new settlements etc., is their own brand of murder for spoil, in this case for land and water. See Zionist (ugly! wet!) dreams of a "Greater Israel." It's all there out in the open (hidden in plain sight), for anyone who cares to properly look.

Now, not only do we get (lying!) propaganda via the AusBC and SBS, we now get it from the one place we once thought could have been our way out'a the filthy shit. No longer so, if it ever (eternal optimist!) was.

But note again, it's not 'just' propaganda, rather it's also hate speech. Pahoff 'taught' me almost all of what I know about hate speech (see blood libel, say), and it's a funny thing: that it is exactly those who rave and rail about anti-US this and/or anti-Israel that, who are the very ones who also rave about hate speech. We, the truth seekers, don't lie, we don't need to lie, we just don't do it. And we do not hate - US citizens, say, or even Zionists so much, but we do hate, with a true and purple passion - but with perfectly good reasons, so it's much more like deplore, the USrael murdering-thief type actions. The true haters, mateys, are the pro-war, pro-US, Pro-Zionist lying agitator/accessories, aka 'murder for spoil' apologists. But they are not 'just' haters, they are also the true sickos.

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

hate-speak Mk2 ...

 .. not just apparent, it's *real*

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G'day Bob,

In your comment on Janders' "Will they, won't they" thread, you provided a link to Gilad Atzmon's "The Jewish Experience," but the info also has applicability here.

I wouldn't wish to spoil the experience for anyone else wishing to read Atzmon's work, but I'll throw out two teasers. The article explains a lot, it partly confirms my thesis above and it's an all-round 'good' read. Except, of course, it discusses a problem *far* from good - the exact, implacable opposite, in stark, raving mad fact.

Teasers:

  «Love Yourself as much as you Hate Everyone Else»,

and:

  «Seemingly, the move from hard-core dogmatic monotheistic tribalism towards tolerant pluralist universalism is on the verge of the impossible.»