2008/07/13

absolute obscenity vs. utter futility ...


  .. seems they just can't leave their criminality ...

    .. but d*g might help those who help themselves

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The US ended WW2 on a 'high note' as 'top d*g,' letting off a few extra 'bungers' for effect. 'Only' a lousy few extra (non-Anglo) collaterals: «The bombs killed as many as 140,000 people in Hiroshima and 80,000 in Nagasaki by the end of 1945, roughly half on the days of the bombings.»

I dimly recall reading a book about those bombings, and wondering why they (the US) didn't demonstrate their demonic constructions without actually going so far as to murder so many innocents. Of course, that viewpoint ('murdering innocents') is a bit controversial, for the utterly simplest of reasons: those 'who dunnit' felt somehow justified, and those who dunnits had (still have) supporters, and both groups need to avoid any cognitive dissonance (aka guilty consciences, assuming any of that sort actually have any sort'a consciences at all.)

At the time, they (the US, as apparently other war parties) were heavily into propaganda. (Sadly, we find that the propaganda just never stopped). Among other bits, we got this from Truman:

  "The world will note that the first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, a military base. That was because we wished in this first attack to avoid, insofar as possible, the killing of civilians."
[9Aug’45: Excerpt from public statement by President Truman]

It is (scarcely) possible that Truman was in error because he did not allow himself to be properly informed, but we now know that: «Since then, thousands more have died from injuries or illness attributed to exposure to radiation released by the bombs. In both cities, the overwhelming majority of the dead were civilians.» [My emphasis.]

It is a task that truth-seekers (I am one) set themselves, to uncover the facts behind (lying!) propaganda. Another piece of that WW2 A-bombing propaganda was that the bombings avoided (one quarter, one half, one million - you choose a number, just as they did) - allied casualties. It's a lie that the sheople® easily, even eagerly, swallowed back then, just as some still do.

Aside: truth-seekers may also be called revisionists[1] as an attempted slur, but I don't see anything derogatory in exposing lies to reveal the underlying truth. As an illustration, a quote:

  «He concluded that, while there was no masterplan for expulsion, the IDF played a significant part in precipitating the flight of more than 700,000 Palestinians from Palestine. The Birth was followed by half a dozen books that helped to consolidate Morris's reputation as a rigorous revisionist historian.»

Comment: it's from a review of another book, one that puts the lie to the Israeli "David vs. Goliath" propaganda myth. Sadly, as an offset to that good work, the author seems to fall foul of some jihadi/Islamo-fascism rubbish:

  «The only major departure from the evidence, and from common sense, is the stress on the jihadi character of the two-stage Arab assault on the Jewish community in Palestine. Echoing Samuel Huntington's silly and superficial notion of a "clash of civilisations", Morris depicts the 1948 war as "part of a more general, global struggle between the Islamic east and the west". The empirical evidence for this view is utterly underwhelming, consisting as it does of a collection of random quotes.»

Parting shot: what's going on now, as then, in the immediate surrounds to Israel, is the IDF (*not* defence, but actually *attack* forces) attempting to murder in order to steal ever more land and water.

Getting back 'on-track:' instead of moving to any sort'a 'peace dividend,' the US moved us on - even before the end of WW2 - to the 'cold war.' The A-bombings were carried out for at least three reasons not admitted: (1) because they could; they'd spent the dough and had the 'toys,' (2) they wanted data from 'real live targets' (at least four possible targets were reserved as pristine; they could do that because they were not militarily significant), and (3) to 'send a message' - to Russia, and the world: "See what we can - and will - do." The 'save our boys' excuse was not much more than a propaganda furphy - directed at and swallowed by the sadly Oh so gullible sheople.

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Now, skipping to the present, we come to a very important article cited by Bob Wall (G'day!):

  «There are basically three main rationales for keeping the imperial adventure in Mesopotamia going in one form or another. First, that it is a fight against terrorism, a battle to uphold the values of civilization against the evil Islamofascist hordes. (This is the argument always offered for public consumption, and it may well be that a few of its champions actually believe it.) Second, that the United States must dominate this all-important oil region as a matter of vital national interest, regardless of the "legality" or "morality" of the project. (This is the "savvy" insider view, the realpolitik of the Cheney Faction and "gritty realist" commentators.) Third, that U.S. forces must remain in Iraq until the country is stable enough to ensure an "orderly" withdrawal. (This is Barack Obama's public stance -- one which, as we noted the other day, virtually guarantees many more years of occupation. Not to mention Obama's plan to leave behind a "residual" force -- of up to 80,000 troops -- even after his "orderly" withdrawal.)»
[Disorderly Conduct: Subverting the Bipartisan Paradigm on Iraq]

In the above, we can see three elements, (1) the propaganda lies they feed to the sheople, (2) the geopolitical/Realpolitik excuses for the so-called sophisticated murdering thieves, and (3) the political cop-out for the so-called representatives.

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It was only ever a matter of time, before the magnitude of the US' depravity would be seen in all its filthy tawdriness; we knew all along it was murder for oil in Iraq, and now we can see all the grisly details emerging. With the latest mooted oil-deals, the mainly US oil-majors will attempt to get fully 75% of the value, vertically integrating their rip-offs, as I've always maintained, from the sand to the sea. Cost (honestly reckoned) plus 10% would be fair, leaving the Iraqis their sovereign share - but it is not, under the great Satan's current plans, so to be.

Thanks to the internet, and thanks, but "No, thanks!" to GWBush&Co, we may ever more clearly see the US' criminality emerging. Books from Blum, Chomsky, Perkins & Klein - among a growing multitude - give witness.

Read the whole chris-floyd/William Pfaff article, and the other stuff Bob puts up.

Then try to work out how the US crooks can be stopped.

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Fazit: The neoCons and their PNAC are neither unique nor new. US depredations began long ago and have continued down to the present, through Afghanistan and Iraq and now threatening Iran. We may contemplate how this could come about, and here I think of the "Harvard Business School (for Sharks.)" More than one commenter has said that one can't be both honest and successful in competition with 'that lot.' Perkins' "Hit Man" gives us a glimpse, as does Klein's "Shock Doctrine/Disaster Capitalism," Blum's "Rogue State" and "Killing Hope" list out the crimes. But, and this is where the absolute obscenity vs. utter futility comes in, the mostly US capitalist system *is already filthy-rich*, rich far beyond avarice. They just can't spend it, they've got so much. And yet the ravening greed continues, threatening our very ecosphere, truly our one and only life-support system.

Q: How will they, the greed-masters, live, when our ecosphere collapses?

Talk about futile, Q: How will they live, by eating their money?

One last Q for now: If they're so clever, why do they have to employ murdering violence and theft?

  «Violence is an admission that one's ideas and goals cannot prevail on their own merits.»
[Edward M. Kennedy]

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Ref(s):

[1] revisionism n. often derog. revision or modification of an orthodoxy, esp. of Marxism.  revisionist n. & adj. [POD]

revisit v. (-t-) visit again. [ibid.]

revitalize v. (also -ise) (-zing or -sing) imbue with new life and vitality. [ibid.]

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

G'day Phil, on the matter of bombings, Tom Engelhardt has a piece which could be titled "Four weddings and a lot of funerals". Deals with US aircraft dropping in (or rather dropping bombs on) wedding ceremonies. As Tom puts it:

Here's the truth of it: In Bush's wars, the wedding singer dies, the bride does not get a chance to run away, and the event might be relabeled my big, fat, collateral damage wedding.

With friends like these. Afghan warlords target US forces.

And not the agreement they wanted.

U.S. and Iraqi negotiators have abandoned efforts to conclude a comprehensive agreement governing the long-term status of U.S troops in Iraq before the end of the Bush presidency, according to senior U.S. officials, effectively leaving talks over an extended U.S. military presence there to the next administration.

In place of the formal status-of-forces agreement negotiators had hoped to complete by July 31, the two governments are now working on a “bridge” document, more limited in both time and scope, that would allow basic U.S. military operations to continue beyond the expiration of a U.N. mandate at the end of the year.

The failure of months of negotiations over the more detailed accord — blamed on both the Iraqi refusal to accept U.S. terms and the complexity of the task — deals a blow to the Bush administration’s plans to leave in place a formal military architecture in Iraq that could last for years.


Oh dear, how disappointing. Well, for the US.

Anonymous said...

G'day Phil, Chris Floyd on matters concerning Afghanistan and Pakistan - a follow up to yesterday's material.

Anonymous said...

Re: the commenter from Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:05:57,PDT (propaganda; not published.)

To demolish any piece of lying propaganda, it is necessary and sufficient to point out just one of the lies contained therein.

Perhaps the most egregious[1] lie concerns surrender, which I counter with a single sentence:

"Competent testimony exists to prove that Japan was seeking to surrender many weeks before the atomic bomb came."

The commenter may care to reflect on the fact that the US had broken the Japanese codes, and that well before December 7, 1941. In which case, were some US servicepersons (quite a few, actually) deliberately 'allowed' to be killed, aka 'sacrificed?' And if so, how high up in the command structure would one have to go for that to be permitted to happen, aka sanctioned? This exact line of reasoning can be traced through to the current moment; given the illegal invasion of Iraq was carried out based on total fabrications, aka lies (there's the same ugly concept again), lies known beforehand to be lies, wouldn't that imply that the 4000+ dead US servicepersons who have died as a direct result of that invasion, now morphed by the US President and Pentagon both into a brutal occupation, be considered also as deliberately 'allowed' to be killed, aka 'sacrificed?'

(Of course, the US servicepersons currently dying in Afghanistan and Iraq, say, are not dying completely in vain; there's the provision of fuel for the humungous fleet of behemoth gas-guzzling SUVs to be considered. Oh yeah, and 'helping' another rogue state, aka Israel. It never stops; now they're making threats, like "All options!" to the next intended victim, also indirectly threatening Russia and China. Nice!)

While we're talking death and destruction, aka murder for spoil, we should not forget to mention all those innocent women and children, aka 'collateral damage,' including the original US native population, viciously slaughtered on behalf of the US (regime) down through all the years that the US has been aggressively attacking other sovereign nations, aka carrying out war crimes on the Nuremberg scale.

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Ref(s):

[1] egregious adj. 1 extremely bad. 2 archaic remarkable. [Latin grex greg- flock] [POD]

My comment: Lies are lies, but only criminals and/or idiots push them, or fall for them.

Anonymous said...

G'day Phil, more on "The Dark Side":

An interview with Jane Mayer;

Glenn Greenwald;
A review.

And on assorted crises - DemocracyNow interviews Naomi Klein.

No apologies to those who think these matters should not be aired.

Anonymous said...

G'day Phil, a couple of articles which fit neatly together, a case of plans within plans ...

F. William Engdahl - "A war waiting to happen".

Luke Ryland on the Sibel Edmonds case and more plans within plans.

Matters worthy of investigation and if they have sound bases, dirty work at hand and a shipload of trouble on the way. It gets crazier ...

Anonymous said...

the calculus of evil ...

 .. and 'yes,' it *is* all the US' fault

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G'day Bob,

in my research into the A-bombing of overwhelmingly civilian 'targets:' The bombs killed as many as 140,000 people in Hiroshima and 80,000 in Nagasaki by the end of 1945, roughly half on the days of the bombings ... In both cities, the overwhelming majority of the dead were civilians, I've seen that *before* they did it, most of the problems were foreseen. One problem, perhaps the major one - after, that is, the actual mass-murdering war crime aspect itself, is that *IF* the US use was anyhow justified *THEN* some other use may also be. Let me put that, another way: the example has been set. Here, I'm thinking of the CIA's estimation of a certain ME country as a "single bomb" target.

Had a certain other ME country just the one deliverable bomb, then a lot'a current options might suddenly find themselves "off the table," eh?

Then the thought occurs to me, that usually, if something *can* happen, it eventually will, even *must* happen, one way or another...

Anonymous said...

Correction - wrong link for the Luke Ryland, this is the correct one.

Phil, on the possibilities from my previous and also in re USrael/Iran, I wrote elsewhere these things can gather their own momentum, and misunderstandings or accidents can trigger a process that leads to disaster. In the case of the US, the administration is not only crazy, but quite stupid and ham-fisted, so ... but Bush mightn't care if his god tells him it's OK.

Anonymous said...

G'day Phil, a lively piece from Eric Margolis on the G8 and hypocrisy and kicking sand in Russia's face.

A promise was made:

Bush and Rasputin Dick Cheney have broken a 1991 pledge made by President Bush Senior to Soviet chairman Michael Gorbachev. In exchange for Gorby’s not using the Red Army to crush spreading revolts in East Germany and across the dying Soviet Union, Washington agreed not to advance NATO eastward toward Russia or into the old USSR. Gorbachev’s courageous, humane concession averted a crisis that could have led to a nuclear war.

Gorbachev kept his side of the bargain, allowing the Soviet Union to implode. But the US, sneering at Boris Yeltsin’s bankrupt, demoralized post-imperial Russia, quickly reneged and began advancing NATO ever closer to Russia’s borders. Washington is currently mucking around in Georgia and Ukraine, both parts of Russia’s back yard and considered seriously off limits to the western powers.

Small wonder Bush’s foolish ABM system so outrages the Ruskis who have every right to moral outrage and being angry as hornets. Bush’s paranoia and obsession with Iran is causing him to risk provoking a military clash with Russia. He is fast pushing Russia’s new President Dimitri Medvedev and PM Vlad Putin to the wall.


People dreamed of a post-Cold War peace dividend. The MIC had other ideas and the dream was shattered by arrogance and hubris and the allure of empire.

Anonymous said...

G'day Phil, some people who one would not expect to want nukes abolished, do so. Why?

Some are renouncing violence, which is an inconvenience to others. So, just cook up some new threats.

More from Nick Turse, via Tomdispatch on oil .. call this "Hunting for oil."

An example of the mentality at work - Glenn Greenwald on Tom Friedman ... on a planet far, far away. Oh, wait, not so far away at all.

While at GG, have a look at his other material - today's is on the latest attack on the US Constitution.

There are war criminals and then there are ... well, We just don't do that kind of thing.

Anonymous said...

G'day Phil, from Tomdispatch, an article by William J. Astore on "citizen-soldiers becoming "warfighters".

When did American troops become "warfighters" -- members of "Generation Kill" -- instead of citizen-soldiers? And when did we become so proud of declaring our military to be "the world's best"? These are neither frivolous nor rhetorical questions. Open up any national defense publication today and you can't miss the ads from defense contractors, all eagerly touting the ways they "serve" America's "warfighters." Listen to the politicians, and you'll hear the obligatory incantation about our military being "the world's best."

All this is, by now, so often repeated -- so eagerly accepted -- that few of us seem to recall how against the American grain it really is. If anything -- and I saw this in studying German military history -- it's far more in keeping with the bellicose traditions and bumptious rhetoric of Imperial Germany under Kaiser Wilhelm II than of an American republic that began its march to independence with patriotic Minutemen in revolt against King George.

So consider this a modest proposal from a retired citizen-airman: A small but meaningful act against the creeping militarism of the Bush years would be to collectively repudiate our "world's best warfighter" rhetoric and re-embrace instead a tradition of reluctant but resolute citizen-soldiers.


Rachelle Marshall on unintended consequences.

Petraeus and his fellow surge advocates are driving flat out in Iraq with no destination in sight.—Steve Coll, in the New Yorker, April 14, 2008

The more we try to explain such events in history reasonably, the more unreasonable and incomprehensible do they become.—Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace

TOLSTOY WROTE these words in reference to the War of 1812 between France and Russia, but his message was that war is an irrational exercise that invariably takes on a momentum of its own, regardless of its original purpose. Surely his observation applies to the current Middle East wars in which the U.S. and Israel are unable to achieve victory despite their vastly superior military power, and for which there is no foreseeable end.

In each case the stated intent of the warmakers has been derailed by unintended consequences. U.S. forces in Somalia, Afghanistan and Iraq are not fighting al-Qaeda terrorists but multiple and ill-defined resistance forces, and defending governments that lack support from their own citizens. Israel’s assaults on Gaza have strengthened rather than weakened Hamas, and provoke more resistance. All four wars have caused massive damage to the countries involved and inflicted limitless misery on their inhabitants, but instead of ending terrorism they are laying the groundwork for more.


Keeps the "warfighters" busy.

Oralloy said...

"propaganda; not published."

Not one thing that I wrote was propaganda.

You blocked the post because you are a coward and you knew your lies couldn't stand up to any real scrutiny.




"Competent testimony exists to prove that Japan was seeking to surrender many weeks before the atomic bomb came."

Liar.

(Please don't whine too much about being called a liar. First, you are in fact a liar. And second, since you block posts that point out that what you say is untrue, I don't see much point in anything more substantive this time around.)

Anonymous said...

lying trolls bis ...

 .. futile and sick criminals by the accessory mechanism.

Prologue: arguing with trolls such as this one is known to be pointless in the extreme; a troll's self-assigned task is to distract, since such usually come from fundamentally untenable positions, namely supporting propaganda, filthy lies and murdering crimes. It is the task of truth seekers such as myself to expose lies and further the cause of truth, ergo this blog. The following then, is mainly for the edification of any aware bystanders, and my own amusement.

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Troll: «Finally, you forgot the most important reason for dropping the two A-bombs on Japan: they hadn't offered to surrender yet when each A-bomb was dropped on them.»

My previous rebuttal, extended:
  « ... and David Lawrence, editor of U.S. News, who wrote in October 1945: "Competent testimony exists to prove that Japan was seeking to surrender many weeks before the atomic bomb came."»
[LATimes Archive for Wednesday, December 17, 2003
Ugly History Hides in Plain Sight
By Kai Bird and Martin Sherwin
]

September 13, 2008
On The Beach
by Gordon Prather
  «On July 18th [1945], Stalin – who was not at the time at war with Japan – shared with Truman and Churchill a telegram he had got from the Japanese Emperor asking for peace.»
[antiwar/prather]

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One may dance on the head of a pin, and try contesting that "asking for peace" is different from "offer[ing] to surrender," but one must also acknowledge that psyops were not only then well known but were actually in play (natch); the Jap codes had been looong broken (*before* Pearl Harbour - hmmm?), and they, the US so-called 'leaders,' via their spies and psyop analysts, knew that the one, single thing that the Japs would simply never do would be to surrender the person of the Emperor, and so the psy-operators demanded exactly that, with the intent of prolonging the war until the bombs were ready to be deployed.

(The true purpose of the murdering A-bombings included a) intimidating the Russkies, b) gathering data (twice for the two types), c) they'd spent the dough, got their toys, had to use 'em, and d) they were then, as now, psychopaths. Sick, sick, sick, and mass-murderingly criminal with it.)

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Then, the claim that the A-bomb targets were militarily significant can be instantly, summarily and totally dismissed: the targets, five in all, were 'pristine.' With the exception of Kyoto, which was 'culturally sensitive,' if the remaining four had any military significance at all, they would obviously, *must* have been far, far less significant than the 40 or so cities which had been effectively, completely demolished (the US Air Force had 'run out of targets'); but more: to allow any significant target to remain pristinely productive, would have lead *directly* to more Jap matériel and therefore concomitantly increased US casualties, and so would have been irresponsible in the extreme - if not actually outright traitorous.

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Finally, this:

  «United States Strategic Bombing Survey states: "The Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombs did not defeat Japan, ... it is the Survey's opinion that certainly prior to 31 December 1945, and in all probability prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated."»
[Chronology on Decision to Bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki]

My comment: the official enquiry set up by the US government concluded that the A-bombs were not needed, it was a double war crime, perhaps the most major, ever. The troll knows this - but persists; QED. Then see [2].

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PS Mr/Mrs Troll, those like you who actively assist criminal projects, as here by trying to retroactively 'support' them, make themselves accessories after the fact, and are often considered by the law to be as equally guilty as the perpetrators themselves.

Of course, crime-supporting trolls such as yourself can never acknowledge their failings, simply because they are failed human beings, evolutionary trash (detested US-speak, spit!), so's to speak, since they - exactly as you - are defective, having neither good morality nor functioning conscience.

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Ref(s):

[1] bis
adverb Music (as a direction) again.
ORIGIN via French and Italian from Latin, literally twice. [The NEW OXFORD Dictionary OF ENGLISH]

[2]   « The first successful test of the atomic bomb occurred at the Trinity site, two hundred miles south of Los Alamos at 5:29:45 a.m. on July 16, 1945. Oppenheimer was beside himself at the spectacle. He shrieked, "I am become Death, the Destroyer of worlds."»
[Decision to Bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki, ibid.]

Epilogue: Not 'just' Oppenheimer, but the concerted thrust of USA, Inc. seems to be exactly that: to rip-off as much of the world's resources as they possibly can, don't care if most of 'em go obscenely obese whilst attempting to stuff their spoils down their greedy-beyond-avarice gullets, and let their grossly excessive exhaust fumes (i.e. CO2 pollution) instigate a climate catastrophe. If not stopped, US 'business as usual' may well disastrously damage our once jewel like planet's ecosphere, effectively destroying our world.